to israel's enemies? that would say was a lot of money. >> better yet, until we are at that moment where that might be achievable, maybe it would be better to try to make peace. >> one more question, would you consider supporting conditioning aid to pakistan on the release of doctor shaquille afridi. i'm afraid that without this, we will not get more informants. >> let me speak to that. first of all, i have talked directly with president azari and with general queani about doctor zafridi.like most am ericans, i find it, as you do -- i find it incomprehensible and repugnant that somebody who helped to find osama bin laden is in jail in pakistan. that bothers every american. that said, the pakistanis make the argument that he did not know what he was doing. that he did not know who wassp ecifically being targeted. what do you think that u.s. helping americans?-- >> do you think he knew he was helping americans? >> let me finish. he clearly knew what he was doing in that because they also make the argument t